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Locked Rooms ([personal profile] guillotineroom) wrote2022-04-30 08:58 am
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[PHOENIX]

[once you pass through the clocktower door, you find yourself in a closed room complete with a central table, notebooks and pens, and a white board for strategizing]

[a digital clock on the wall counts down to the end of the game. time to get to work, right?]
laughitoff: (don't love the soldier.)

[personal profile] laughitoff 2022-04-30 06:10 pm (UTC)(link)
It's Basilisk.

[Reim can smell fox because of his monster, smell that he must have been spending a lot of time at the beach or at his garden the past few days, sweat and sun, salt ocean and green and grave-dirt. he doesn't smell particularly like he's been hanging out with anyone particular for a prolonged period before they got locked in here, though he's been near Phoenix and Jiang Yanli today, as might be expected.

he does also smell of resentful energy right now, though he's not doing anything active with it and it's not so strong it's choking. it's blood and metallic rage and something black and oily with disturbing, rotten undertones.]
chew_toy: (93)

[personal profile] chew_toy 2022-04-30 06:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh- you agree, Mister Wei? I was changing my mind, but you also know them relatively well, don't you?
laughitoff: (suffer the sea.)

[personal profile] laughitoff 2022-04-30 06:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I know Sprezzatura, and after the last game I told her I'd bring up Phoenix working with Basilisk to mutually win games. While we don't know the win conditions, I think she'd still take that into consideration for this.
chew_toy: (157)

[personal profile] chew_toy 2022-04-30 06:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah... I'd be more than willing to consider that. Tsuchigumo's circumstances are no longer pressing, after all.

So you also think she'd think the same way...

[ laces his hands together tightly and drops them in his lap ]
laughitoff: (imaginaaaation.)

[personal profile] laughitoff 2022-04-30 06:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I think she's likelier to take the risk than some other people, if she knows there's a decent chance we'd make it mutual? And I think she'd be vocal about her opinions to her team.

[sighs]

While I don't think we should depend on this, you and I know, and she knows, that we have a chance of being protected by Echidna, too.
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chew_toy: (162)

[personal profile] chew_toy 2022-04-30 06:48 pm (UTC)(link)
... I see. That's true as well.

Do you know if they have other close ties to consider? The last assignment similar to this, they didn't, but I don't know whether that's changed.
laughitoff: (hey hey hey hey hey)

[personal profile] laughitoff 2022-04-30 06:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Echidna's ties?

[thinks about it]

Probably Cerberus...?
chew_toy: (65)

[personal profile] chew_toy 2022-04-30 06:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, no. Basilisk's. But Echidna's are useful to know as well, thank you.
laughitoff: (feet in the fire.)

[personal profile] laughitoff 2022-04-30 07:02 pm (UTC)(link)
[inclines his head]

I don't know Basilisk's other ties too well, I'm afraid.
chew_toy: (95)

[personal profile] chew_toy 2022-04-30 07:18 pm (UTC)(link)
[ nods once ]

Then, if we assume they still have limited ties- are they likely to risk the ones they have to minimize general casualties?
laughitoff: (fear will hold you back.)

[personal profile] laughitoff 2022-04-30 07:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes? The amount of strategy you can do here is limited. Hitting someone is a bid to protect them, and it's also a bid to protect yourself.

[spreads his hands, making a disgusted face]

It's a distasteful game the Warden's come up with, not an imaginative or hard one.
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chew_toy: (153)

[personal profile] chew_toy 2022-04-30 07:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Mutually targeting each other does not protect one another from other attacks.
laughitoff: (vicious vengeful sea.)

[personal profile] laughitoff 2022-04-30 07:30 pm (UTC)(link)
So what? Past that point it’s out of one’s control.
chew_toy: (74)

[personal profile] chew_toy 2022-04-30 07:33 pm (UTC)(link)
So, mutually targeting one another is a means to protect the other groups. Not each other. That was the thinking behind my line of inquiry.
laughitoff: * (when we came home.)

[personal profile] laughitoff 2022-04-30 07:39 pm (UTC)(link)
[shrugging]

We just pick the one we have the best mutual chance with. That’s it. Since there’s no greater coordination to this game, the only consideration to minimize harm is in which teams you think will hit Phoenix back, so we don’t just guarantee we kill someone.
chew_toy: (5)

[personal profile] chew_toy 2022-04-30 07:56 pm (UTC)(link)
[ looks down at his hands. brings his elbows up to rest on the table and leans his forehead against his knuckles and takes a long, slow breath in ]

It's probably the best course of action. I'm not disagreeing with it, but, if only to humor me, could we compile everything we know of the other groups just to be sure?
laughitoff: (sky starts falling.)

[personal profile] laughitoff 2022-04-30 08:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Sure.

[he sounds tired. scrolls down the registry on his phone]

Echidna has ties to us and to Cerberus. Cerberus has mutual ties to Kraken. Basilisk has ties to us. One of the Nymphs isn't new, he used to be on Yatagarasu, though it's hard to say if that makes them more or less likely to attack each other. Kraken probably likes Bugbear? And you'd have a better idea of what's going on with Tsuchigumo currently than me. That's about what I know.
chew_toy: (57)

1/2

[personal profile] chew_toy 2022-04-30 08:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah, that's right, Mister Nikkou...

[ reaching for some of the papers and a pen and starting to mark things down and chart out different ties ]

Tsuchigumo is more likely to prioritize avoiding their ties, which means they won't choose us. Aside from that, I'm not sure, but from the smell I would guess probably not Yatagarasu, either... Well, the fact that they won't target us is all that really matters to us currently.

Echidna only has a protection vote, and... well, while a number of them might like to shield the most likely group to sustain attacks, I'm not sure they would feel confident they have enough information to make that determination. If they still attempt it, then they almost certainly won't choose us or Cerberus, but otherwise, as you've said, we'd be their first choice. If they do attempt to protect a likelier target, then perhaps Nymph...? But I think most groups would avoid targeting Nymph for the same reason.

Harlock believes Cerberus will also avoid their close ties, which means they won't choose Kraken or Bugbear. I don't know if there's any other arrangement there to sway their final vote beyond that. Since they're relatively sociable, the fact that we don't know more about them might put us surprisingly high on their list of potential targets.

Since Elliot and Miss Tsuruno are friends, I'd like to say Kraken isn't likely to target us either. But then again, she has quite a number of friends... If there's anyone else who would want to try for a mutual target, it's most likely Miss Tsuruno. But Miss Kugisaki is just the opposite. Well, in either case, I don't think they have any reason to think we might mutually target them.

Yatagarasu...

[ stops writing, drumming the other end of the pen on the table in silence for a bit ]
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chew_toy: (20)

[personal profile] chew_toy 2022-04-30 08:52 pm (UTC)(link)










It's no use. Yatagarasu's decision will almost certainly rest primarily on Mister Soot's judgment, but the setup is too straightforward. I can't picture what he'd do in this situation in the slightest.
laughitoff: (in aqua sanitas.)

[personal profile] laughitoff 2022-04-30 08:56 pm (UTC)(link)
She really did revise this game to counter you, huh?
chew_toy: (74)

[personal profile] chew_toy 2022-04-30 09:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not conceited enough to think she wouldn't have done this regardless.

Bugbear... probably won't target us, Cerberus, or Kraken. Well, I suppose we might be on the table now. Vicious isn't likely to gamble on a mutual attack, but I don't know if he'll put forth his opinions at all. I wonder if he has any regrets...

I've spoken with Miss Han, but not enough to get a sense of how she'd approach something like this, nor Sphinx's ties...

[ increasingly just mumbling to himself ]
laughitoff: (climbed the rolling hills.)

[personal profile] laughitoff 2022-04-30 09:10 pm (UTC)(link)
[...]

Once we've made a decision, how do you feel about Phoenix being unconscious when the timer runs down?
chew_toy: (162)

[personal profile] chew_toy 2022-04-30 09:22 pm (UTC)(link)
In case we receive the punishment? Ah... Maybe it would be good if Elliot is. But he'd probably be offended at the suggestion.

[ taps the pen a couple more times ]

... Yatagarasu won't target Tsuchigumo. Whether they aim for a mutual attack or not, that should still be the case. And, questionable as he may be in certain areas, I don't believe Mister Soot is cutthroat enough to push to target Nymph with Mister Nikkou there. Two groups they're inclined to avoid should mean they're unlikely to leave it up to chance.

There is some possibility of being targeted by Cerberus, Nymph, Sphinx, or Yatagarasu, but Basilisk is by far the most likely to target us.
laughitoff: (sky starts falling.)

[personal profile] laughitoff 2022-04-30 09:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I'll ask the group; it's not like I'm going to do it to somebody unwilling.

[glances at Reim's notes]

That makes the decision easy enough, then, doesn't it?
chew_toy: (157)

[personal profile] chew_toy 2022-04-30 09:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Does it?

... I'm sorry. Even though I wrote all this out, it's like I said to you before; in the end, my thinking is a little too narrow. If we're wrong, I don't really know how I'm going to face her... but if no one else has objections, I'll go along with targeting Basilisk. Because if she's depending on us to defend ourselves from her, then it would be even worse for her if we fail to meet her expectations.

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